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NASA new rocket: Liberty
« il: Mer 14/09/2011, 20:29 »
NASA strike back, after US Congress and Senate, Kill ARES I & V
NASA and Alliant Techsystems goes international cooperation with EADS !   :star_struck:

Liberty is de facto Big Stick with the Five-segment SSRB BUT with Ariane 5 core stage
First test launch 2013, Operational in 2015 for launch of Orion capsule to ISS

Info in German:,1518,786199,00.html
in English
more data

By the way
in US Congress and Senate, the Telephones and  cellular phone gonna be red hot  :rage:
from very angry call of Lobbyist from Boeing, Lookheed-Martin, Grumman-Nortrop, SpaceX...  :wounded:
"Spiacente per il mio italiano difettoso: è il risultato di un traduttore automatico poichè non sono italiano!"

Re:NASA new rocket: Liberty
« Risposta #1 il: Mer 14/09/2011, 21:43 »
Michel van, thanks for the data provided. It's good to know that the thrust of a Space Shuttle booster (12.5 MN) is nearly twice the thrust of an Ariane booster (6.47 MN). I didn't think it was so much, I thought the Ariane boosters were more powerful.
Let's hope well for the Liberty rocket, a liftoff of this rocket will be like the one of Ares I-X, in 2009. I remember it very well.

Re:NASA new rocket: Liberty
« Risposta #2 il: Gio 15/09/2011, 12:17 »
Dear Michel.

thanks for the update.
Personally I don't like very much such "big stick" (as also disliked the original Ares-I) and I have a mind full of doubt about it.
Anyway it will enter in competition with other rockets like Atlas and Falcon (my favorite one), so let see what will take the future...