# NASA new rocket: Liberty

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**Created:** [14 Settembre 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://www.forumastronautico.it/t/nasa-new-rocket-liberty/15753 "2011-09-14T18:29:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![michel\_van](https://www.forumastronautico.it/user_avatar/www.forumastronautico.it/michel_van/32/55_2.png) [@michel\_van](https://www.forumastronautico.it/u/michel_van)\
**Post date:** [14 Settembre 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://www.forumastronautico.it/t/nasa-new-rocket-liberty/15753/1 "2011-09-14T18:29:03Z")

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NASA strike back, after US Congress and Senate, Kill ARES I & V  
NASA and Alliant Techsystems goes international cooperation with EADS ! 🤩

Liberty is de facto Big Stick with the Five-segment SSRB BUT with Ariane 5 core stage  
First test launch 2013, Operational in 2015 for launch of Orion capsule to ISS

Info in German:  
[http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/weltall/0,1518,786199,00.html](http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/weltall/0,1518,786199,00.html)  
in English  
[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14901036](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14901036)  
more data  
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty\_(rocket)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_(rocket))

By the way  
in US Congress and Senate, the Telephones and cellular phone gonna be red hot 😡  
from very angry call of Lobbyist from Boeing, Lookheed-Martin, Grumman-Nortrop, SpaceX… 🤕

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**Author:** ![phoenix\_1994](https://www.forumastronautico.it/user_avatar/www.forumastronautico.it/phoenix_1994/32/157_2.png) [@phoenix\_1994](https://www.forumastronautico.it/u/phoenix_1994)\
**Post date:** [14 Settembre 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://www.forumastronautico.it/t/nasa-new-rocket-liberty/15753/2 "2011-09-14T19:43:47Z")

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Michel van, thanks for the data provided. It’s good to know that the thrust of a Space Shuttle booster (12.5 MN) is nearly twice the thrust of an Ariane booster (6.47 MN). I didn’t think it was so much, I thought the Ariane boosters were more powerful.  
Let’s hope well for the Liberty rocket, a liftoff of this rocket will be like the one of Ares I-X, in 2009. I remember it very well.

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**Author:** ![archipeppe](https://www.forumastronautico.it/user_avatar/www.forumastronautico.it/archipeppe/32/65151_2.png) [@archipeppe](https://www.forumastronautico.it/u/archipeppe)\
**Post date:** [15 Settembre 2011, 10:17am UTC](https://www.forumastronautico.it/t/nasa-new-rocket-liberty/15753/3 "2011-09-15T10:17:05Z")

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Dear Michel.

thanks for the update.  
Personally I don’t like very much such “big stick” (as also disliked the original Ares-I) and I have a mind full of doubt about it.  
Anyway it will enter in competition with other rockets like Atlas and Falcon (my favorite one), so let see what will take the future…